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Best Answer Veged , 12 July 2015 - 17:08

CPU is fine. They'll overclock it for you so they will run a stress test and you also get to keep your warranty.

Well for a pre build pc it probably doesn't matter whether you chose the H100i or the NZXT. Just read some reviews on both cause i dont know how loud the pumps on either are.

I use the H110i and my Temps on the 2600K went down by ~30°C on a 450D Case. I might have to switch the stock fans for more silent ones later on.

 

I'd say don't go for the 2400MHz RAM. The boost compared to the 2133MHz DIMMs doesn't matter at all on games.

You could either safe the 70 pounds or put them in additional 8GB RAM.

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    Hi all

    Looking for a new PC and need help, my budget is £1,300

    Building it myself is out of question so have been looking at several pc sites like overclockers, pc specialist etc.

    Found a build on Dinopc which hopefully will run most current and near future games at near to max settings, and of course Arma3.

    Hear is what I'm looking at



    Magma Wrath 
    Customizations:

    Special Deals:  Free! McAfee Antivirus Plus 2015, 1 year, 1 user
    CPU:  NEW! Intel Core i5 4690K
    CPU Overclocking:  4.3Ghz - Extreme Overclock
    CPU Cooler:  NEW! Corsair H55 Water Cooler
    Operating System:  Windows 8.1 (64-bit)
    Motherboard:  NEW! Gigabyte Z97X-Gaming 3
    RAM:  8GB Corsair 2133mhz Vengeance (2x4GB)
    Hard Drive:  NEW! Kingston 120GB SSD
    Secondary Hard Drive:  1TB S-ATAIII 6.0Gb/s
    Optical Drive:  22x DVD±RW DL S-ATA
    Graphics card:  NEW! Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB Strix OC
    Sound card:  Onboard 7.1 Audio
    Internet:  NEW! Gigabyte Wireless 802.11AC 867Mbps + Bluetooth PCI-E Card
    Case:  NEW! Corsair Carbide Spec-01
    PSU:  NEW! 650W Corsair CS Modular
    Keyboard and mouse:  Zalman M300 Mouse and K400G Keyboard
    Monitors: NEW! Iiyama 24" GE2488HS-B1 Gaming LED (HDMI, DVI, VGA)

    What kind of FPS would I expect, and could I get high settings also?

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    Thats actually quite a good deal given the price and the fact that it is pre-built. You should get between 60fps and 120 no problem given that arma relies mostly on processor power over graphics cards. Your graphics settings will be able to sit quite high too.


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    I have almost the same build... Everything on ultra on arma 3.

    Vanilla arma without mods etc i get 70-120 fps indeed. BUT dont expect the same results online. In RG operations i get between 20 and 50fps. Due to the complexity of the mission and assets on the map.


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    Honestly, you shouldn't bother with overclocking or watercooling if you're not confident with building PCs.

     

    Breakdown of what I would recommend:

    Special Deals:  Free! McAfee Antivirus Plus 2015, 1 year, 1 user - Don't ever use any anti-virus given to you by a company. Always pick your own to suit your needs.

    CPU:  NEW! Intel Core i5 4690K - For £1300 you should ditch the watercooling and the overclocking and simply get a fast stock processor with a bigger cache, such as the Core i7 4970K, which is this fast with no need for overclocking or watercooling.
    CPU Overclocking:  4.3Ghz - Extreme Overclock - Unless you know what you're doing don't ever buy something overclocked this much, as you will not know how to deal with stability issues and the lifespan of the CPU will be much shorter.
    CPU Cooler:  NEW! Corsair H55 Water Cooler - Watercooling is an expensive system that just isn't required when there are quiet, effective air cooling solutions out there for 1/5th the price. (Look at the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo)
    Operating System:  Windows 8.1 (64-bit)
    Motherboard:  NEW! Gigabyte Z97X-Gaming 3
    RAM:  8GB Corsair 2133mhz Vengeance (2x4GB) - For this kind of price range you should really be looking at 16Gb of RAMM. Games are already being released with a minimum requirement of 8Gb, won't be long before this goes up. Also, there's no real reason to overclock RAMM, you get basically no performance increase and lower stability.
    Hard Drive:  NEW! Kingston 120GB SSD - 120Gb is really not enough for gaming unless you only play 1 or 2 demanding games. Remember with SSDs you need to leave half of the memory free in order to get the best performance out of them.
    Secondary Hard Drive:  1TB S-ATAIII 6.0Gb/s
    Optical Drive:  22x DVD±RW DL S-ATA
    Graphics card:  NEW! Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB Strix OC - 970 is probably the best card for your price range.
    Sound card:  Onboard 7.1 Audio
    Internet:  NEW! Gigabyte Wireless 802.11AC 867Mbps + Bluetooth PCI-E Card
    Case:  NEW! Corsair Carbide Spec-01 - Corsair make great cases.
    PSU:  NEW! 650W Corsair CS Modular - For gaming you want to be looking at the RM series as minimum, especially in any rig that involves overclocking.
    Keyboard and mouse:  Zalman M300 Mouse and K400G Keyboard - Input devices are always personal preference, but I would recommend trying a mechanical keyboard, you'll never go back afterwards.
    Monitors: NEW! Iiyama 24" GE2488HS-B1 Gaming LED (HDMI, DVI, VGA) - BenQ are the best gaming monitors right now, but you do pay a premium for them. Just make sure you get something with 1ms or 2ms response time to avoid screen tearing and eye strain.

     

    Remember, it all depends what you're playing. Arma requires less graphics power and more CPU, RAMM and Hard Drive speed/size. Whereas games like The Witcher 3, Elite: Dangerous etc, require more graphics power.

     

    Hope this helps.

     

    EDIT: Try 3XS System from Scan.co.uk as well. Very good team and great customer service with a 3 year warranty.


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    A couple things to say here BlackHeart.

     

    1) Use Avast

    2) The price on the i7 is insane atm. The i5 instead is a great CPU which can easily be overclocked to ~4.5GHz with an decent air cooler like the bequiet! black rock 2

    3) There are several guides online on how to overclock the K CPUs. Mostly and until you hit ~4.5GHz it's simply disabling the automatic OC of the board and set the multiplier to 40, give 0.0004V on Turbo. No stability issues. No degrading of the CPU.

    4) Fuck the H55. Either go for at least a 280mm radiator like the H110i or buy the starter set from alpha cool. The black rock 2 will cool the cpu as good as the H55 for half the price.

    5) I have never seen a game taking up 8GB of memory unless it's a shitty console port like CoD. Not even Star Citizen does that. Also the memory isn't overclocked. Memory ranges up to 2400MHz atm.

    6) The speeds on current SSDs are quite good with more than 50% disc space used. Also I would think they intend the SSD to be the Windows drive and put all the big stuff like games onto the 1TB drive.

    7) The 970 is a great GPU. Still has the memory issue though where it slows down at >3.5GB memory used.

    8) Fuck Corsair PSUs. They all use single-rail technology. Get a bequiet straight power 500. It's got cable managenent, multi rail, sexyness.

     

    I'd say. Pick your parts online, buy them and get a friend (if applicaple) to build your rig.


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    Thanks all for your advice



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    How about this revised spec


    Customizations:CPU: NEW! Intel Core i5 4690K (2230)

    CPU Overclocking: 4.3Ghz - Extreme Overclock (oc43)
    CPU Cooler: NEW! NZXT Kraken X61 (3031)
    Operating System: Windows 8.1 (64-bit) (11022)
    Motherboard: NEW! Gigabyte Z97X-Gaming 3 (4223)
    RAM: NEW! 16GB Corsair 2400mhz Vengeance Pro (2x8GB) (5068)
    Hard Drive: NEW! Kingston 120GB SSD (6074)
    Secondary Hard Drive: 1TB S-ATAIII 6.0Gb/s (6028)
    Optical Drive: 22x DVD±RW DL S-ATA (7003)
    Graphics card: NEW! Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB Strix OC (8139)
    Sound card: Onboard 7.1 Audio (10001)
    Internet: NEW! Gigabyte Wireless 802.11AC 867Mbps + Bluetooth PCI-E Card (13020)
    Case: CM Storm Enforcer (17040)
    PSU: 650W Corsair RM Fully Modular (18054)
    Keyboard and mouse: Zalman M300 Mouse and K400G Keyboard (14152)
    Warranty: 3 Year SureCare Warranty (sc-1)
      Additional Items:Monitors: NEW! Iiyama 24" GE2488HS-B1 Gaming LED (HDMI, DVI, VGA) (15079)
     



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    Looks good. I would still recommend avoiding any overclocking if you're not confident about changing settings or altering the bios, but that's your call to make. Otherwise, system looks pretty good.


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    That CPU Cooler is 172€ on Amazon.

    Please do yourself a favour and buy either an Alphacool Nexxos 240 LT for 140€ or spend 20€ more to get the DDC with a way better pump.

    Also you can add more stuff to that water cooler later on like GPU(s), more radiators and what not. 

    Your AiO Cooler doesn't allow to fiddle with it at all.


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    CPU is fine. They'll overclock it for you so they will run a stress test and you also get to keep your warranty.

    Well for a pre build pc it probably doesn't matter whether you chose the H100i or the NZXT. Just read some reviews on both cause i dont know how loud the pumps on either are.

    I use the H110i and my Temps on the 2600K went down by ~30°C on a 450D Case. I might have to switch the stock fans for more silent ones later on.

     

    I'd say don't go for the 2400MHz RAM. The boost compared to the 2133MHz DIMMs doesn't matter at all on games.

    You could either safe the 70 pounds or put them in additional 8GB RAM.


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    CPU Cooler: NEW! NZXT Kraken X61 (3031)  -> swap that out for a Raijintek Triton AIO. save you some dollar and you get the  same if not better performance


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